Tuesday, March 2, 2021

A Whole-Person Perspective of Health and Happiness: Interview with Integrative Physical Therapist Matt Erb

Matt Erb Interview


“You needn’t be well to be wealthy

But you’ve got to be whole to be holy.”

Greg Lake (from Emerson, Lake and Palmer)

At its core, the holistic model poses a dilemma and/or a challenge: How can you provide an overall model that effectively encompasses and adjusts to individual differences and variations? For the scientific method, one takes apart the whole in order to focus on and to better understand the individual parts, bolts, and pieces. 

After a careful study of them through trial and error and experimental analysis, scientists would summarize the new findings and express them in a general and often universally applicable theory or proposition. As a rule, the medical field is founded and predominantly based on this approach as it tends to split the body from the mind to be able to better treat the former with the potential neglect of the latter.

On the other hand, the whole-person approach sees body and mind as integral parts of the same system - the proverbial two sides of the same coin - that can be stretched and expanded to include not only the personal past but also the genetic and psychological heritage of the given individual. At the same time, the holistic model will also consider and examine the person’s current social, socio-economic, political situation and circumstances. Put differently, instead of a focused view, we would zoom out and look at the big picture and examine other parts and factors influencing the given individual across space and time with the aim of better understanding the underlying medical issue or the problem at hand.

The dilemma or challenge exists in the objective to create a universal theory by focusing on and taking into account the individual differences and underpinnings. It does not help the matter that there is confusion both in the perception of people as well as the practice of the holistic model as there are notable fluctuations and inconsistencies across the same model, in addition to misunderstandings and misperceptions by and of certain practitioners.  

Yet for a better and clearer understanding of the whole-person approach, I decided to talk to Matt Erb, an integrative physical therapist whom I happened to spot on a previous webinar. I found his ideas to be most interesting and aligned with what I believe in and often write about, so I invited him to speak on Arash’s World

Most graciously, he accepted, and we ended up covering a whole range of fascinating topics on physical, mental, social, emotional, and spiritual health, philosophy, both neuro-philosophy as well as the history of philosophy, and the strengths and weaknesses of psychotherapy. It was a wonderful, insightful, and profound discussion that you can find and access in its entirety at the bottom of this post.

Right from the get-go, Matt Erb stayed true to his philosophy and model. On my question, what does a typical day of a physical (or rather a physio) therapist look like, he acknowledged that every one of them would experience their days differently as it would be difficult to resume, reduce, or categorize the practices of this wide-ranging, expansive, and inclusive method.  

In fact, his hope is that this method would not be regarded as an outlier or an “alternative approach” but rather become more commonplace and even embedded within the medical field, so much so, that the term integrative would simply disappear; ideally, it would blend in, be fully absorbed, and integrated with all the diverse health practices as well as theories and systems.

The whole-person approach views the body-mind and environment triad as interdependent and intricately and intimately connected, so that any proposed remedy or treatment would vary as well as adapt and adjust itself to the special and individual needs and circumstances of the given person. For instance, the word physiotherapist as used in Canada and in Europe is more encompassing than the more limiting, distinct, and designated use of “physical therapist” in the US, one of the only countries in the world that insists on this term. The former implies at least a certain connection to or affinity with the physiological (and by extension mental, emotional, and spiritual) underpinnings of the person, whereas the second one is more intent on showing the separation and demarcating lines between the body and the mind in a purely Cartesian manner.

More on Descartes a bit later, but, put differently, mind-body integrated care is the driving force, motor, and underlying inspiration behind the holistic model. This multidimensional approach looks simultaneously at issues ranging from stress, trauma to somatic conditions like fatigue, headache, and chronic pain. Moreover, it examines the relations, implications, influences and repercussions of one of the dimensions on the other. Yet the current medical standard has a more mechanical focus that limits itself by focusing only on one aspect of health and disease without considering and looking at the various other factors and components that equally shape and influence the lack of well-being in the ailing patient.

It all boils down to French philosopher and mathematician René Descartes as he ended up encouraging and facilitating the separation of body and mind. This is mostly a staple of the Western world, as the Eastern traditions, such as Buddhism, tend to see them as an integrated unit where one aspect of one’s existence lives, thrives, and feeds upon the other. Matt equally believes that the Western model of healthcare is biomechanistic and while reductionism in the scientific discipline may at times serve a useful purpose, it should not be the universal approach to health and wellness as most of the health challenges people experience is not that simple.

Matt gave the interesting analogy of having a rock in your shoe and that its removal would alleviate the discomfort and dis-ease one would be feeling. Examples of this pertain mostly to acute care. However, the counterpoint could be that alleviating the issue may not necessarily solve the problem as more rocks and pebbles could appear at any time maybe due to the fit and structure of the shoe. To stretch the shoe analogy even further for our purposes here, the traditional medical model does not look at improving the fit and comfort of your shoes; its aim and purposes are not necessarily to increase your comfort and ease.

To give a slightly clearer example, I used to suffer from regular headaches. I would take painkillers on an almost weekly basis. The medication would help deal with the (acute) pain, but it would not solve the problem or underlying issues. The pain would be recurring on a regular basis until I managed to bring about a seismic shift in my body system. The root problem or cause was my troubled and troubling stress response not only to work but to events in general. Once I effectively dealt with the underlying issues, headaches became a thing of the past and I have not had one in more than three months - and counting!

The other problem with Cartesian dualism is how it has shaped our way of thinking, observation, and interpretation of the world. It is an either-or approach and allows little room for dynamic interactions, complexity or integrative approaches and practices. It is better, healthier, more beneficial, and more accurate to see and understand the world on a spectrum and to accept, if not embrace, a non-linear quantum or spiritual view and interpretation of oneself and the world in lieu of a limiting either-or, one-or-the-other or P and not-P viewpoint. Ever since the days of Descartes, consciousness (let alone the properties, dimensions, and influences of the unconscious) is something that science continues to grapple with and it still has to come to grips with it, and it is certainly not a far stretch to assume that the mind would play a significant role in one’s physical existence, and vice versa.

In my view, the Dao with its harmonious depiction of yin-and-yang elements is the symbol par excellence for overcoming dualistic thinking and of not seeing the world in simplistic dualistic terms; both aspects, alongside their different shades and spectrums, are embodied beautifully in such a simple image, which is conveyed much better and more clearly than words could possibly explain them.

Moreover, it is the symbol of a circle, a nonlinear depiction. In a similar vein, we often tend to split off and compartmentalize our knowledge in different fields and disciplines, such as religion, sociology, psychology, and the medical sciences. Although this is necessary due to the abundance of knowledge, and there are few veritable Renaissance men and women out there, it becomes a vital issue and potential hindrance in treating and dealing with ailments and diseases.

In terms of health and wellness, it would be even more important to track and hunt down the root causes of one’s medical and psychological issues, and often it is a complex combination of both, in most cases, due to trauma or unconscious memories and experiences. Hence, this poses a challenge in terms of education and training as the holistic health practitioner needs to have a good grasp and understanding of various disciplines to be able to best help their patients.

However, culture is another important factor that is not always considered, evaluated, or appreciated when it comes to medical treatments. For instance, countries can be often divided by how much and to what degree they identify with individualism versus collectivism. Although this is a spectrum, many people adopt a particular individualistic or collectivistic lens, which affects their thoughts, actions, and behaviors, both consciously as well as subconsciously.

Each approach has its share of benefits as well as failings and shortcomings. Yet at the same time, neither could really exist without the other. For instance, you can only be an individual in the context of society; if you were stranded on an island your individuality would fade away as you would not be able to compare or contrast yourself with anyone else. The best way would be to find the middle ground and to meet halfway between the “me” and “we” because when they are out of balance with each other, that is when, more often, than not, problems do arise.

Nevertheless, it cannot be denied nor overlooked that politics and culture affect, color, and intersect with our paradigm and lifestyle. In an individualistic society, success becomes more important as you can more easily distinguish yourself from others, hence highlighting, contrasting, and accentuating your individuality. As such, achieving success, which is often measured by monetary wealth, becomes more important than bettering one’s personal characteristics, such as increasing one’s levels of compassion, care, and love for and cooperation with others. A betterment that is less focused on the self but more on others becomes more important in a society that values harmonious relationships between the different parts of one’s society, whether in terms of family, neighbors, work, and teammates or one’s fellow citizens.

As we live in a competitive society that values and equates money and wealth with personal worth, it is no wonder that many people are so high-strung and are always busy and on the go. That often leads to the experience of chronic and toxic stress that then spills over in other areas of one’s life, most importantly our physical and emotional health and wellbeing.

Moreover, stress dynamics affect our food choice and consumption. We want to imbibe food fast and do so in a rush, and most often, we opt for ultra-processed food items as we do not take the time - or tell ourselves that we do not have time - for home-cooked meals with family and loved ones. There can also be economic factors at stake as many people with less economic means will not be able to afford organic and healthy food, or it could be that healthy food options may not be available for them. In various ways, this unhealthy situation feeds the rising epidemic of obesity and many conditions associated with it, including but not limited to cardiovascular diseases, diabetes, and certain forms of cancer.

As the stress becomes overwhelming, the body will adopt various maladaptive coping mechanisms, which can range from overeating to substance abuse or addiction in any of its forms and manifestations, be it promiscuity, drowning oneself in one’s work or any other obsessive-compulsive behavior that does significant harm to our body and mind.

Yet to deal with that, we cannot prescribe pills, and it is not enough to tell people to relax, take time off, or to take it easy, the same way, you cannot simply tell an insomniac to fall asleep or a depressive person to stop worrying and be happy. This is also one of the main reasons why education or simple forms of raising awareness is often insufficient and does not help the affected individuals much.

The root causes would often entail looking at a person’s past and is often related and associated with childhood trauma in all its different shapes and forms. Exposure to childhood trauma, a point in your life where one is at one’s most impressionable and vulnerable, often leads to wide-ranging issues and complications ranging from chronic conditions to mental illness.

There are three main routes that influence people’s health at a later stage of their lives. First off, traumatic stress alters the stress response system, that is, it changes how your nervous system regulates and processes stress. As a result, one may become more defensive and feel less secure; one perceives or decodes the environment as generally threatening or overall dangerous.

Secondly, we would adopt or get stuck on coping strategies to avoid or try to control the rise of uncomfortable feelings from the past trauma. Hence, we attempt to create our own comfort zone that shuns those supposed negative feelings. More about negative emotions in a moment. Yet there is this unconscious drive to “medicate” those feelings of anxiety and suffering and many choose to self-medicate by dealing with it in any way they see fit, such as engaging in substance abuse and other addictive behaviors, including overeating, gambling, or promiscuity.

Finally, the third route is centered on the field of epigenetics. This is how genes express themselves and change when exposed to traumatic experiences or prolonged stress. Our personal experiences and environments may trigger or turn on certain genes by inhibiting or turning off others. In that sense, there are a variety of genetic possibilities that are determined by one’s personal make-up in addition to one’s personal experience and interpretations of events, hence adding that extra touch and layer of individuality; this is also why identical twins are more different than we generally assume, apart from the effects of random variation and mutations.

But, in my view, it is trauma that often stems from family dynamics, which has the strongest effect on our future health and well-being. In fact, our own exasperated and often relentless drive for success may be remnants and echoes of parental voices in the past that told us to work hard and to be someone of substance and importance in the world. Many parents in conjunction with standards promoted and encouraged by their society do not insist on further developing our unique passions, talents, and personality; instead of wanting us to focus on our interpersonal skills or emotional intelligence (except for the vague notion that we always need to be ourselves), essentially, parents want us to pursue well-paying and respected professions.

As explored by trauma-informed physician and psychologist Gabor Maté, who was mentioned not once but twice in our conversation, there are four common tendencies that emerge from adaptive patterns in children later affecting people in adulthood. The first one is caring more for the emotional needs of others than one’s own, hence prioritizing the other over oneself. The second one is having an excessive role of duty and responsibility, which would then cause oneself to lose connection with one’s authentic self.

The third tendency, and in my view, the most important one, is the suppression of “negative emotions” and hence holding and bottling it all in, which ends up causing significant harm. It is like a pressure cooker that keeps building internal pressure and if not released or dealt with in one form or another, may turn into outbursts, which can be reckless and irresponsible behavior and forms of aggression, panic attacks, or other physical and emotional ailments and diseases. In fact, the best avenues of self-expression would be to fully feel and experience one's emotions, to express them and then to move through them without getting stuck or mired in those forceful feelings, or as Matt puts it succinctly, “look back, but don’t stare.” In that sense, one can, as Erich Fromm put it, make the unconscious conscious as one explores the past to better understand the present.

There are various studies of adverse childhood experiences by Vincent Felitti that show and demonstrate the therapeutic effects of validation; naming, expressing, and acknowledging trauma is correlated with better health outcomes in later life. This is not different from the beneficial effects of witnessing grief, a form of processing and dealing with our pain when faced with the loss of a loved one.

The third common tendency or fallacy, as demonstrated by Gabor, is believing that you are responsible for how other people feel and that you must never disappoint anybody. When you become stuck in that state, you do yourself harm since you would never say or dare to say “no” to other people at the expense of your own health.

These are some of the main roots of chronic illness and disease, but they do not operate on their own. They often combine and interact with nutrition, unhealthy food choices, lifestyle, and the long-lasting toxic effects of prolonged chronic stress.

How can we overcome trauma and the maladaptive stress response? Some may opt for psychotherapy, but that is easier said than done. First off, there is the stigma of mental health that unfortunately haunts us across many cultures and traditions. The second one, somewhat tied with that stigma, is that being vulnerable is a weakness and that seeking help is a sign of a lack of personal competence or independence, which is also not true. The third point, which Matt insisted upon, and which he is correct about, is the fluctuation and inconsistency that comes within the field of psychotherapy.

Psychotherapy contains a wide range of fields and disciplines and some of them are beneficial and helpful, while others do not address the issues, do not effectively alleviate the physical and emotional pain and suffering, or the therapists are simply not good at their jobs. In the same way, there are good and bad teachers, students, politicians as well as doctors out there, some therapists are less competent than others.

In the field of my interest, psychoanalysis, it is of vital importance that the analysts get themselves analyzed at different time intervals to ensure that they are capable of providing the necessary help without muddling their therapeutic work due to their own unconscious issues or bias.

At the same time, as there are a variety of approaches and disciplines within the mental health field, a lot of them are not phenomenological and tend to distort issues and problems; in some cases, they may make things worse. For instance, positive psychology may work for some patients, but its insistence by some practitioners of constantly seeing the positive side of things could potentially lead to what is now denoted as “toxic positivity,” which is another type of evading the root problems, that is facing one’s inner demons.

It is my opinion that we would all benefit from the insights of psychoanalysis. Regardless of whether we have or believe we do not have any emotional issues, it is of importance to ensure that we are as healthy and as happy as we can be. When we feel well – and not just delude ourselves or tell ourselves that we are well - then we are wealthy; once we feel whole, we are also holy, which is why you will find many mental health professionals, the better ones out there who are worth their salt, that do not object to nor resist notions of spirituality and religion.

We may not have rocks and pebbles in our shoes, but we need to make sure that the shoes are a perfect fit. With comfortable shoes and our affairs all in order, we can walk the path of life with confidence and relish and enjoy every moment that comes our way and, in the meantime and all along, take in the good with the bad in our joy-filled stride.

 

For the full-length interview on my YouTube channel, please click: here

If you prefer to listen to the interview, here is the link to my podcast: Arash's World Podcast


For further information on Matt Erb, please visit the following site:

Matt Erb, PT: Integral Physical Therapist, Embody Your Mind


 

 

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